You said defensive Charles Bay, didn't you? If you didn't, you haven't been paying attention.
Sure, the 6-foot-3, 245-pound Bay is still learning the game but as big as he is, as strong as he is and most notably, as fast as he is? Easy choice.
Not so, apparently, for one ranking service. Visit the Consensus Draft Services home page, drill down to the 2011 NFL Draft Prospect Database, continue to Prospects in this Conference and you'll find the service lists three players from the Big Green and Charles Bay isn't one of them.
No disrespect intended to the three, but given the way injuries limited their opportunities last year, you can bet this honor has even them scratching their heads. (I don't know how accurate the 2010 Games Played page is on the Dartmouth website, but it lists this threesome as appearing in one game last fall. Combined!)
The full CDS list of prospects from the Ivy League:
Marc Holloway, LB, Columbia
Bruce Fleming, DT, Columbia
Leon Ivery, HB, Columbia
Andrew Kennedy, TE, Columbia
Adam Mehrer, S, Columbia
Mike Stephens, WR, Columbia
Matt Green, OG, Cornell
Brad Greenway, K, Cornell
Quinn Dempsey, S, Cornell
Chase Jensen, FB, Dartmouth
John O'Sullivan, OT, Dartmouth
Tim Vanderet, WR, Dartmouth
Gino Gordon, HB, Harvard
Collin Zych, S, Harvard
Brent Osborne, OG, Harvard
Ryan Murray, TE, Penn
Keiffer Garton, QB, Penn
Jared Mollenbeck, OT, Penn
Matt Boyer, DT, Princeton
Steven Cody, LB, Princeton
Matt Zimmerman, FB, Princeton
Shannon Bane, FB, Yale
Patrick Moran, DT, Yale
Those who follow the individual schools can tell you better than I how accurate the CDS list is, but without naming names, I'll admit I have my doubts. It's very strange, but less egregious, to be sure, than the magazine that made an unforgivable error on its preseason All-Ivy team and included a player who died in April.
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I don't know how many Dartmouth or Ivy League players have Twitter accounts, but I wouldn't think they are a problem.
At some schools they apparently they are – or at least could be. Boise State coach Chris Petersen, for one, has banned them. From the Idaho Statesman:
"We tell them long before they come here, there's a price to play on the blue turf. You're not a normal person, you're not a normal college student," Petersen said. "There are a lot of things you can't do that those normal people get to do."Green Alert Take: As a refugee from the Fourth Estate, I suppose I am expected to argue against Petersen's ban. And as a beat writer, I'd definitely be disappointed by the ban because it would probably cost me some leads. But if I were a coach, I'd do the exact same thing and make no apologies for it.
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One of these days Charlie Brown will actually kick that football.Sure he will.
And one of these days Vermont will actually beat New Hampshire in the annual Shrine Game that kicks off football in these parts. Sure it will.
But not this year as not even seven turnovers and 165 penalty yards could stop the Granite Staters from posting a 34-20 win over the Green Mountain Boys for their 10th consecutive win. New Hampshire now owns an overwhelming 42-13-2 advantage in the series.
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